"It's the normal progression of things--from the edgy early adopter who seeks purity and novelty above all things, all the way through the early majority and then the mass market. As the market grows, it gets, by definition, more average....This creates opportunities and challenges. Last one in with a mass market offering can do very well after the market is pioneered by the iconoclasts. And the iconoclasts have to be very careful of depending on the market they created staying just the way it was, but bigger."

"What the indie designers are doing – getting together, running a booth together – is probably a lot like what Gen Con was in the early '80s. The indie designers are having their litle 'old Gen Con' inside the bigger Gen Con we have today."